What do you think about Zhihu user @justjavac being at odds with PHPhub administrator 'Fa Ge' on all major platforms due to 'plagiarism'?

The person involved, @justjavac, synchronized the tearful articles on all major platforms:

• Fork! ! ! Coincidence, this is definitely a coincidence, absolutely! - Code Story - Zhihu Column
  
• Fork! ! ! Coincidence, this is definitely a coincidence, absolutely!
  
• FORK! ! ! It's definitely a coincidence, absolutely!
  
• About plagiarism: I hope all injustices in the world will eventually be resisted by the world.
  
• Written to the PHPHub community: Although the name has been changed, don’t forget the original intention_Laravel China community
  
• A summary of WeChat mini program development resources~Hey~what a coincidence~you are also organizing it! ! FORK! !
  
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admin "Fa Ge" @Aufree's response on PHPHub:

• Regarding the plagiarism mentioned by Star Wang, just a few words_Laravel China Community
  

PHPHub founder @Summer called for counterattack on PHPHub:

• Statement on the two-day "Midu" incident of defaming Laravel China_Laravel China community

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I don’t know the merits of this thing. I have also done community management, so I can say a few words about this from the perspective of community management.


Honestly speaking, I think this administrator is really worrying. If I were a community manager, and I saw this kind of article that I would like to go with, of course I would immediately delete my own stuff and add it to him.

What’s the solution? Does the community have more administrators or more non-administrators? You have to write all the articles yourself, aren't you exhausted? There is such a ready-made free labor force to work for you, so hurry up and reward yourself to stimulate your enthusiasm. If you argue with others, you can only say that you lack the ability to manage.

Look at the Zhihu operation team. When Zhihu first opened, they were posting on it every day. Anyone who wrote a more reliable answer would be praised and encouraged. In fact, their own answer standards are not bad. Everyone Not blind.


Arouse the enthusiasm of members. It’s useful to get high by yourself. If you want to get high, you might as well get a private server. I watched this matter for several days, but because I didn’t have a computer at hand in other places, I didn’t think it was a big deal, so I didn’t pay much attention to it.

In the morning, I accidentally saw some topic answers and columns about this matter in the timeline. I accidentally saw Fa Ge’s reply below. I felt that this person is not good. It’s not that I think he is crazy about pasting and copying answers. And giving others nicknames is very like a primary school student, but I think jjc's article did not directly point out that he plagiarized jjc.

I took a look, and it is true that jjc released it relatively early. The content is so common in the circle of friends, so duplication is inevitable. I also went to see the layout of the content of the first commit, and I felt that I had to publish it. I copied jjc, it’s really far-fetched.

So this also proves a problem: it is far-fetched to say that jjc copied Fa Ge.

I expressed my opinion first. I think the two of them just happened to write the book by coincidence. I can’t say who copied the other.

jjc has posted a number of articles in different communities, saying two things:

1. The phphub community administrator posted similar content and took away the popularity of his own content (added to the top).

2. There is a website that reprints illegally and does not sign jjc’s name, and jjc makes fun of the screenshot.

It is really serious to say that this kind of thing is slander. Because of the first point, the administrator of phphub and the person involved must work together because they are relatives. It is understandable and the counterattack is understandable. After all, I said it at the beginning, this matter is very serious. Most likely it's a coincidence.

What is helpless is that my emotional intelligence and understanding ability are limited. I have forced the second point of view on myself. This is something I have never seen before, and I am looking for scolding...

So, our other client, Fa Ge, I started to make personal attacks on various posts. Some were scolding small animals and some were scolding the previous generation. I really... think of his avatar and it is really popular...

It doesn't matter if I'm angry, I'm just scolding him anyway. It's not me, I just think the quality is worrying.

Then he started to slander a Zhihu user on an emotional topic. He has more than 30,000 fans who belong to the jjc account and slandered them with very nasty words. This is really too mean.

Normally speaking, two people can scold each other freely, but throwing dirty water on a girl is really too mean. Are you still a man?



Teacher Su has brought so many interesting stories to us otakus, does Fa Ge know? I knew Teacher Su before jjc came to Zhihu, and I have been following her silently.I can definitely prove this, they are definitely not the same person.

Is it really the original intention of technical people to hang a girl who is not in the IT field in the technical community?

In the end, it wasn’t a big deal at first, but all parties expressed polite apologies and didn’t want to make a big deal out of it, even though it was the poster who was the first to be the victim who was robbed of his popularity. The other one is useless, the lower limit and the language have subverted my three views, just like a primary school student being slapped on the head, throwing dirty water and spraying dirty water. Who is higher and who is lower, anyone with a discerning eye can see it.

I hope this matter will end as soon as possible. After all, Fa Ge is angry and this matter will keep him bragging for several years. :) To be honest, I didn’t understand what was going on after reading that article. It seems that my Chinese is starting to deteriorate (wu 1. I don’t think there is plagiarism, it’s just that everyone thought of it together. There are only a few articles worth selecting with similar content. It’s normal for there to be overlap. @justjavac overreacted;
2. The administrator has discovered that others have published similar content first. Then after writing it myself, I will refine it. This is debatable, and it is easy to understand why the other party will be dissatisfied;
3. Today both projects are on GitHub Trending. Wouldn’t it be better to combine them together? Leave a spot for other projects. . Although I decided not to participate in such boring issues a year ago, you guys have made a big fuss about this matter today, so I will shamelessly say a few more words:

First of all, I am not satisfied with the work on GitHub People who organize the awesome-xxx series on the Internet have two impressions: those who are really doing things and those who are cheating. The former are serious about doing things, organize them in a timely manner, and update diligently, while the latter naturally cannot explain it. I have also followed some projects, and no matter what their purpose is, I am ultimately grateful to such people.

Regarding this incident, first of all, I would like to state that when I wrote this answer, I did not carefully compare the so-called similarity of the contents of the two articles word by word. I took a quick look and found that the content is indeed The same place, but think about it from another perspective. When a new thing appeared less than two days ago, it is completely understandable to collect the same content. Everyone is a professional "operation expert". When such a new thing appears in the circle, When making something, it’s normal to want to take the opportunity to get some traffic and stars. I just go to GitHub and search for the awesome series. I still need to learn more from the masters about this. I’m still relatively lazy and don’t like to collect. Being too good at promotion, especially being involved in so many communities, would make me feel tired. Therefore, in summary, it is not scientific to judge plagiarism based on the publication date of articles.

Also, as a community administrator, I don’t think there is any problem in giving priority to promoting your own content in your own community. It inherently requires operating costs, and the server also costs money, so there is no need to prioritize promotion or other similar forms. There is no right or wrong.

Then I saw two screenshots of the other party in @justjavac’s article. If the person who coded the conversation has nothing to do with today’s interested parties (of course I don’t know the answer), I think it’s really lacking in grace to put it there.

Another point, the circle is too small, there is no need to break it up, everyone will look up and not look down, and there is no defense in calming down and discussing first before making a decision. Especially for those of us who are engaged in technology, I think it is wise to write more code and do more practical things. Contribute more practical open source works to the community, and do the things you are doing in a down-to-earth manner. Don’t waste time on this. In necessary quarrels, if there is something wrong or unhappy, everyone can sit down and talk about it and make it clear and everything will be fine.

It’s been more than a year since I answered questions on Zhihu. I saw everyone was so excited today, and I couldn’t control myself from talking more nonsense. Please don’t speculate at your own risk. (Also, please don’t drag me along, little brother. It’s really scary. People with little influence like me are especially afraid of such rip-offs. Last year, I stopped playing Zhihu because I did too much rip-offs.)

Wish everyone well. How should I put it? I’m not very good at this at the beginning. I haven’t played Zhihu for more than a year, and I haven’t seen the jjc master for more than a year. A lot of things have happened in more than a year, and it has also made me change from a certain point. I have been rescued from these fantasies. I have had a lot of feelings this year, but I seem to be off topic.
My literary talent has never been very good. My opinions on some issues are based on what comes to mind, and there is no logic at all. So please forgive me if there are any logical errors or idioms below.
I remember that jjc’s first impression on people was very good. I think many people have never seen jjc’s photos. He is very upright about protecting his own information. (Quick interruption, it seems that he has changed his mind now, I’m sorry..., too many things happened this year). At that time, I was still a rookie in my senior year in college, and someone who had just entered this industry, and I was still a monk halfway. It can be said that the person who led me to get started was jjc, until I left him. , I am still a newbie, I still don’t know anything, I still can’t write anything, and I am a very lazy person. I only study technology when I am at work, such as github and blogs. I have never been too lazy to write. It is too troublesome. , I remember that jjc said to me at the time that he asked me to write these things. I couldn’t help it, I was too lazy, but I was just like this. I was doing pretty well a year after graduation. The company I am currently working in has a hard target, and I must have three Years of work experience, I played a trick when I first joined, but now I’m here, and I’m still working. Although the first two months were painful, it was all worth it. I can do this 80% of the time I want to thank jjc. He didn’t teach me anything messy. He taught me one thing, which I still use until now. Although you asked me to talk about some long-term functions of PHP, I really can’t name a few. It seems that Off topic again.
Tell me your opinion on this matter. I don’t know much about this matter, I don’t understand it at all, but I just want to support jjc unconditionally, because I know some about jjc’s past. He is a very honest person and a good person. A very cute person, he had an idea, but the idea died due to various reasons, and what is happening now is so similar. He is always the one who feels hurt. I think he should change his mind. I have experienced a lot of things in the past year, and I have also seen a lot of bad things. In my opinion, things like jjc are just a small thing, and the result is already destined. Now it is just nonsense and then fades out of sight. . . See, it's not very simple. But jjc was injured again. In fact, when I first saw the title, I thought it was hype. After a second look, jjc was obviously the protagonist of the incident, so the possibility of hype was very small, because such a thing happened to him. It’s not surprising because history is similar. And I’m not a big-time guy. My focus of development is not with him. Even my current career is just a transition. Of course, I’m not a sailor. It’s all nonsense to discuss with JJC. We haven’t contacted each other for a year, but it was only after I woke up and saw this that I supported jjc. Remember that if something like this happens in the future, it will be okay to just hurt jjc. There is no reason, because he is such a person. . Relevant interests: I have received donations from justjavac, and I believe many people with GitHub and blogs do the same - Are there any coders around you who are active on GitHub or blogs, but their work income is not very good? - justjavac's answer
In terms of technology, I think justjavac's 4 million views on iteye: justjavac (MIDU) and nearly 30,000 reputation on SegmentFault: justjavac - SegmentFault can prove the following sentence There is a problem. .

In terms of character, just write a console.log and mix it with javascript language. How can I upload a jQuery source code in awesome list. . . . .

I think this kind of awesome list takes quite a lot of time and effort. It’s not enough to just start it~~, it needs to continue.

As GitHub’s chief Markdown programmer in China, I also maintain an awesome list. For the purpose of weekly reporting, I have maintained it for more than a year and it doesn’t have as many stars as they do in a day.GitHub - phodal/awesome-iot: Awesome IoT. A collaborative list of great resources about IoT Framework, Library, OS, Platform

From now on, when talking about Fa Ge and introducing this person to others, we can probably only say: That Fa Ge who plagiarized and then used administrative rights There's nothing good about this. Let's leave. I said in the group last night that arguing will only make others laugh, so I wrote an article to warn and remind you. Unexpectedly, I still started tearing it up today. I thought Fa Ge was a forum administrator recruited by Li Guilong, but I didn't expect him to be his partner and younger brother. This is so embarrassing. I have also been removed from the community hall of fame by Li Guilong. Today, a friend reminded me that I am ranked first for the best answers on the Laravel topic on Zhihu. Thank you all for being wrong and interrupting your timeline.