java - 大一/大二学生Python实习的困惑？

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题主是一名非名校的CS本科学生，现在遇到了一些困惑，想请教一下热心的网友。因为不是985/211名校，现在题主所在的这所学校我感觉学风非常不好，第一是整体水平太低，一学期结束了，班上都没几个人能...

阿神 · Answer

There are 100+ answers on segmentfaultIt seems there are more than I thought. The questioner should stick to the original plan to learn C++ well from Microsoft engineers, and then take the Algorithm Introduction course of Jisuanke for free with excellent results. By now, the professional courses should be almost complete. After learning English well according to Xiaolai's method, contact Qin Shihuang immediately to help you. Push it to FB, and then you can chat and laugh with Teacher Zeng (before that, it is recommended that the subject go to Wanmen University to study undergraduate physics in one month for better results), and finally wait for the moment when the global synchronized suicide device is developed. We collectively suicide.

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高洛峰 · Answer

It’s quite cool to have this awareness in my freshman and sophomore year. Algorithm, how should I put it? I think the low-level code porters can feel the usefulness of the algorithm later, but most development is still in the low-level stage. Of course, I am too, so I I feel that if you want to learn Python, it is more important to learn the language itself first

黄舟 · Answer

I am the same age as the original poster. We just finished our sophomore year and interned in the R&D department of Nasdaq Sydney.
I will answer the questions one by one:
1) I am abroad, and the interview here basically tests algorithm data structure and system design capabilities. I heard the same is true in China. In addition to my friends in BAT, I also have friends in promising Internet companies --- many of the technical backbones of these companies are from Silicon Valley, and they also attach great importance to these aspects. After all, basic skills determine the upper and lower limits of your ability.
2) I mainly write back-end now, and the technologies are Python, Perl and the like. Although the subject is unlikely to get a visa to intern abroad (the company actually has interns from the UK), I have learned from my internship that many domestic and foreign financial technology companies choose Python as their main development language. There are many quantitative investment platforms in Shanghai, you can consider them.
3) In addition to the quantitative investment platform mentioned above, I have a friend who is interning at Splunk, with a daily subsidy of 300 yuan. If you have confidence in yourself, you can give it a try.

And I don’t want to give chicken soup: school is really important. But this importance will become less and less as your working hours increase. While in school, you can also use Github to make up for the disadvantages the school gives you.
In fact, the most important thing about studying in a good school is to meet excellent people; while in an average school, people are likely to become mediocre. However, the original poster is already aware of this problem.
Come on.

大家讲道理 · Answer

Brother Shi, who graduated this year, replied angrily.

First of all, it’s not 985. There is no need to belittle oneself. Although I am from 985, I dare not say that I know more than you at this time
不要只看眼前，要做长期规划. Haste makes waste. I know you want to master some hard skills that can be used at work immediately, but if you ignore the learning of basic knowledge now, you will reach your improvement bottleneck soon after you work. The ultimate goal during college is to master various solid foundations of CS, including a thorough understanding of data structures and algorithms, computer principles, network principles, etc. Don’t ask me why because it’s all tears.
I like python as much as you do, but it’s best to understand some python data structures and the underlying implementation of libraries to know what you want to do. Language is just a tool to help us realize our ideas
Maintain your own github and blog, a good github repo is much more useful than a 985 diploma
Be sure to use English and Google. If there are books in English, don’t read them in Chinese

巴扎黑 · Answer

解决问题的思维以及能力That’s what we need to hone (from the many questions asked on sf, we can see that many people don’t think much, don’t practice much, and don’t know how to search for answers)

I dare not say too much for fear of misleading people

PHP中文网 · Answer

But I often see some netizens on segmentfault/v2ex looking for jobs (mainly front-end/Java) after learning for 3/4 months. After working for 1 year, they can still make ~~annual salary?~~monthly salarytens of thousands.

A colleague of mine, a junior college student, worked on Java for one year, and then worked on PHP for one or two months, and on front-end for one year, and then on front-end, he jumped to 17-18K

For those who can get an internship offer by self-study for a few months before graduation, do they really not take the algorithm test during the interview?

BAT basically enrolls 985 students. We have little hope for undergraduate studies and we are young, so we basically don’t have any hope.

Meeting algorithm, but very basic. Your university textbook algorithm book is enough to understand it.

If you are determined to specialize in algorithms, say something else.

There is no problem with internship salary/work location, as long as you can find a place to practice your skills.

Multiple choices, the basic internship salary and promotion speed are directly proportional

It is recommended to go for half a monthSocial Recruitment. Don’t apply for any amount you pay. Write down all the questions you don’t know during the interview and solve them immediately. In the second week, you will find that everyone is asking the same questions. You will feel like what the fuck is okay

PHP中文网 · Answer

Slowly accumulating experience is the best way, take it step by step

PHP中文网 · Answer

Technology has little to do with school or style of study. Academic qualifications are important, but it is not such a dilemma, because technology is the last word.
After reading this article of yours, to be honest, I feel very stressed. When I was a freshman or sophomore in college, I was not as thoughtful as you. Your article described the future in such a confusing way that I felt very stressed. It made me suddenly feel better. confused.
But I was also a sophomore and an intern when I came out, and I also received an offer.
There are many companies using Python now. My last company also used it, but my last company was very small.
So I think this job is easy to find, but it is difficult to go to a big company all at once. After all, big companies look at academic qualifications and skills.
So before you go out for an internship, you should first solidify your skills and then start looking for a job.
First think about what kind of company you are looking for. Does it have to be a big company? Or as long as it allows you to learn Python to the best of your ability?
Big data is changing rapidly, and Python will not always be popular.
I now have a colleague who also used to use Python, but now he is engaged in PHP.
Learning more about other extensions will be of great help to you.
I also gave a very confusing answer. In short, the point is that you should calm down and learn skills first.
Then, find a company.
Thank you for technology, technology will not treat you badly. Woof

黄舟 · Answer

As for Python, in fact, all major Internet companies have certain positions. It’s just a question of how many and whether the main technology stack is Python.
In addition, companies like Zhihu, Scallop, and Douban all have relatively high sentiments. Although the salary is average, the requirements are high. And it’s not that easy to get into. In fact, there are quite a few companies that use Python.
I think your main problem is that if you want to do an internship, you are only a freshman or sophomore in college, so the possibility of staying is relatively small, and it’s not just a matter of recruitment. It can be used, and many companies should be more concerned about this. Large companies have relatively complete rules and regulations and generally will not accept this. You can find connections or find a slightly smaller company.
It is indeed more laborious and boring to use the algorithm, but this It’s a must. Don’t always think about opportunism. Looking at others is like complaining every day about why some people are rich second generation and I am not. It doesn’t make any sense.

Finally, I don’t know how interested the subject is in front-end. There is a huge demand for front-end now, and it is easier to find a job than Python or JAVA.
After all, back-end is divided into Python, JAVA, C++, php, etc., etc., front-end It’s just the front end, pfft

I feel very strange when I see the following comments. If you think there is something wrong with my suggestions, you can point it out. I don’t understand the custom of leaving comments below in a weird way.

PHP中文网 · Answer

I would like to answer this question from another angle.
I took a look and found that the author should be a sophomore now, and the article also showed a lot of thinking, which is really commendable.
But what I want to say is, is the poster too anxious?
I roughly counted, and similar statements about "poor study style" were used 5 or 6 times. By the time they reach college, everyone should have the ability to make decisions on their own, and don't attribute too many factors to the outside world. No matter how good the school is, you still got in by yourself. Rather than being a little anxious and thinking about how others are not good, it is better to think about how to use the existing resources to improve yourself.
More importantly, I hope you don’t live in the shadow of negativity. Four years of college life is short, and it may be more important to fully enjoy the moment and accept yourself.
Try to calm yourself down and don’t live so tiredly. Best wishes~